• # Don’t be “skerrrrred” of diminished chords

I just saw the horror flick “Strangers” and I couldn’t help but to notice the over-exaggerated use of effects and music.

(BTW, save your money on this movie… this is not an endorsement).

I’m all for a diminished chord here and there to intensify a scene but the director’s attempt to really scare you went overboard. I won’t lie though… I flinched a few times. hehe

But this is what I really want to talk about…

Diminished chords are not only great in horror scenes. You’ll find them all throughout contemporary gospel music, jazz, blues, and other styles.

In gospel and Christian music, they were actually banned several centuries ago because of their “devilish,” diminished sound. Nowadays, they are commonplace as the right amount of dissonance in the right places has been widely accepted and almost associated with being an “outside-the-box” player.

So I just thought I’d include something for everyone in this post.

For my beginners, I’ll show you how to form diminished chords. And for my more experienced players, I’ll show you another way to use diminished chords.

For starters, this is how you form a diminished chord using numbers.

I’ll use the C major scale.

C D E F G A B C

C = 1
D = 2
E = 3
F = 4
G = 5
A = 6
B = 7

You can look at this many ways.

You can just take tones 1, 3, and 5 and flat the 3 and 5.

So that would be C, E, and G but you’d flat the E, making it Eb and the G, making it Gb.

C diminished = C Eb Gb

You can also start with a minor chord and just flat the 5th tone.

C minor = C Eb G

Flat the fifth tone to Gb

C diminished = C Eb Gb

You can also think in terms of intervals.

Basic triad chords are made up of third intervals.

There are two basic ones.

Major third

and…

Minor third

Major thirds = 4 half steps
Minor thirds = 3 half steps

(half steps are from key to key, with absolutely NO keys in between).

So C to E is a major third because it has 4 half steps (C to C#, C# to D, D to D#, D# to E).

C to Eb, though, is a minor third because it only has 3 half steps.

So if you compare diminished chords to major and minor chords, you’d notice this:

Major chords are basically a major third + minor third.

Minor chords are basically a minor third + major third.

Diminished chords are a minor third + minor third (thus the SUPER scary sound).

So there’s a crash course for my beginners.

Now, if you want to make a diminished seventh chord, it gets a little more trickier.

You take the 1, 3, 5, and 7 of any major scale and you flat the 3 and 5 like normal (just like we did above for our basic diminished triad). But for the 7, you have to DOUBLE FLAT it.

So if the C major scale is:

C = 1
D = 2
E = 3
F = 4
G = 5
A = 6
B = 7

You’d take C, E (flat it to Eb), and G (flat it to Gb). There’s your basic triad.

Then you take the B and flat it to Bb, and then flat it again to Bbb.

Note: Saying Bbb (pronounced “B double flat”) is the same as playing “A.” They are enharmonic (another topic in and of itself).

Most people informally would spell out the C diminished chord as C Eb Gb A. This would be wrong on a music theory test but will slide anywhere else.

To be correct, you say:

C Eb Gb Bbb

So basically when you talk about any major, minor, dominant, or diminished seventh chord in the key of C, you will always see C E G and B. No way around it.

C major 7 = C E G B

C minor 7 = C Eb G Bb

C dominant 7 = C E G Bb

C diminished 7 = C Eb Gb A (WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)!

C diminished 7 = C Eb Gb Bbb (the right way)!

Phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Now that I got that outta the way, here’s how to use the diminished chord (outside of just using it by itself).

6-2-5-1 chord progression

You can use a diminished seventh chord when you’re on the 6th tone of a scale and want to go to the 2nd tone of the scale.

A normal 6-2-5-1 chord progression in the key of C major might look like this.

A + C + E + G / A bass

D + F + A + C / D bass

D + F+ A + C / G bass

C + E + G + B / C bass

What if you took the A minor chord and kept your bass the same but used some type of diminished chord on your right hand?

Try this:

A# + C# + E + G / A bass

And that will lead you perfectly to your D minor chord.

A# + C# + E + G / A bass

D + F + A + C / D bass

D + F+ A + C / G bass

C + E + G + B / C bass

If you want a better D minor chord and want to keep that “G” on top, try playing:

F + A + C + E + G / D bass

(which is a “D minor 11”)

So as you can see, diminished chords aren’t always scary. If you play them with their root bass, perhaps… but if you change their bass notes around and start experimenting with them, you can find a host of things to do!

Until next time!

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1 Sam

diminished chords have never been scary to me. i think they are beautiful when applied the right way. jermaine touched on this too with that progression up there. there are others too and i hope you can delve back into this topic soon j.

Samuel

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3 Margie S

thanks jermaine. I’m not new but this was a good refresher.

4 Peter Thorton

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5 Larisa

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6 Jo chou

Wow, i i’ve never seen Bbb before. Are you making this stuff up? J/P

7 Jermaine Griggs

No, it’s true. Cb, E#, Bbb, Ebb are all real notes. Just lower a note twice in the case of Bbb.

Bbb makes the same sound as A.

8 srhi

i didn’t like strangers either.

9 Juliana

Thanks for this wonderful arlicte. Also a thing is that the majority of digital cameras can come equipped with any zoom lens so that more or less of any scene to get included through zooming’ in and out. These types of changes in focus length are reflected within the viewfinder and on big display screen at the back of your camera.

10 learnlah

I seldomly use diminished chords, but this is a good one to try.

11 Musallio

No, Jermaine did not make up the Bbb name.
This is another enharmonic name or A, depending on how you write down your music.
On paper it looks different, but it sounds the same.

There are many notes with double & even triple flats & sharps, from a technical perspective.

enharmonic names refer to this: for instance, let’s look at the major scale of E: We could also call it the Fb major scale.

The Emaj scale looks thus:

E-F#-G#-A-B-C#-D#-E [note how each letter from A to G appears once. We find that there are 4 sharps in the key of Emaj.]

in Fb:

Fb-Gb-Ab-Bbb-Cb-Db-Eb [notice each letter was used once because a major scale is diatonic. this has 8 flats].

I hope this clarifies matters.

12 Uche

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13 music boy

Love this tips they help alot in my everyday music escapades.

14 Dimple

15 Godspiano

I didnt know the diminshed 7th chord till now. I will play it now as double flat instead of a 7th. Thanks a lot Jermaine.

16 peter

l lack the right words of appreciation. may Almighy God bless you big.
He who refreshes onother himself is refreshed.may you take your playing next level,and may you have unceasing flow of newness in music, jermaine.
jeremiah 33;3

17 Vishwanath

Great post, Jermaine… I learned lots today, from this! The explanation on the different ways to look at a chord, ( based on notes, based on intervals) was so interesting.. Your article “teaches”, and teaches really good!

18 Loyiso Mali

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19 ernest

may God the entire hear and play family in Jesus name,amen

20 Dimseven

And each note in a dim 7 th chord is the LEADING tone to a new key! ! ! Truly amazing and very useful.

21 freedom

i realy appreciate these lessons, they are wonderful but i am having problems in understanding why A#dim was used on d key of C. I will be most grateful if u make me understand more. Thanks

22 Dan

Try spelling it enharmonically. Switch A# to Bb, and you get C#-E-G-Bb. In other words, seven diminished in D minor.
On a related topic, those four notes actually make four different diminished chords all at the same time:
C#°7
E°7
G°7
Bb°7
Neat, huh?

23 Michelle

You teach so well! Thank you!

24 Richrd

Jermaine,

I think there is one small correction.. the 3rd chord you specify in your 6-2-5-1 chord progression is actually a 2!

Shouldn’t it be G-B-D-F/G bass (assuming you want a Vdom7?).

Other than that, good stuff here.

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29 Gerry Deagle

Thanks. Loved your simplified way to memorize diminished scales. Another example of great teaching on the web. Added your link to my web site.
Cheers
Gerry (lol)

30 Jike

I’m more of a starter guitar player, but I’m getting into the theory now. However, I don’t quite understand this?!?

What exactly did we do in that last part? As far as I understood we had this:

Am7/A -> Dm7/D -> Dm7/G -> C7/C

Can somebody explain to me why the 5 in the 6-2-5-1 progression isn’t a G-type chord? And what chord is that even supposed to be?
Also, unless I misunderstood something about flattening, I am pretty sure we didn’t diminish the Am7 chord. But what did we do? Did we replace it completely? Or does it have something to do with B (since its the 7th tone in the C Major Scale and that’s the one that’s supposed to be diminished, as far as I understood)?

Also, do excuse if my terminology isn’t completely correct. As I said, I’m still a starter!

31 Dan

G-D-F-A-C gives you a G11 chord. (scale degrees 1-5-b7-9(2)-11(4) in G Major.) It’s just a dominant chord expanded beyond the seventh.
For the vi chord, we’re actually looking for the chord that leads into D minor, the next chord in the progression. The bass stays on A while the right hand plays a C#°7 chord, the naturally occuring vii° chord in D harmonic minor.

32 Dan

° is the symbol for diminished, btw. Probably should clear that up. ;)

33 Corazon

That was a great explanation – so clear. Diminished Chords were scary to me – yes, before, but now they’re a “darling” to me. Thanks for the lesson. Kudos to you

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35 jflexx

that was terrific. thanx jermaine.

36 Moses

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37 Musicians Inc

Great post! Please feel free to comment on our post about diminished chords
http://www.musiciansinc.net/guitar-diminished-chords/

38 Stephen Coyle

In terms of weather if
Major is to Sunny with a breeze and Minor is to Cloudy with Light Rain… how would you personally describe :
Diminished
and
Augmented?

39 Jim Butler

Actually diminished chords are God’s favorite chords.
So precious that He only made three of them.
Ok just kidding, but they are far and away my
favorite chord and yes, if you play the guitar
you will see that every forth fret is the same
diminished sound. Every forth key on the
circle of sharps and flats uses the same
sound. It may have a different name and it
may be start in the tonic or any three other
places in the chord, but it is the same sound.
So….. just three of them to my mind and ear.
It’s because of how the chord is structured
that demands this. Anyway, to me it is the most
poignant or ‘deeply affecting” of all the chords
Often placed on purpose in just the right place
in songs with lyrics to punctuate or elevate
the concept. Examples include “Friends in Low
Places” with ‘boots’ in the first verse and ‘belong’
in the second verse. Also My Sweet Lord or Isn’t it
a Pity by George Harrison. Listen for the chord in the words
‘takes so long’ or ‘pity’ O Little Town of Bethlehem has a great
dim chord on the word ‘are’. I have an album called Living Voices
sing Songs of the West (cowboy songs) which uses dim chords
a lot to add real beauty to the chord progression “From this valley they
say you are going…..We will miss your bright eyes and sweet smile”
The dim chord on the word eyes is just sublime. Forgive my
rambling. I want everyone’s ears to be sensitive to this chord so they
can appreciate it when they hear it.

40 prosper

sir sori to disturb buh i jst want to no how to use perfect 5th chords

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