I just saw the horror flick “Strangers” and I couldn’t help but to notice the over-exaggerated use of effects and music.
(BTW, save your money on this movie… this is not an endorsement).
I’m all for a diminished chord here and there to intensify a scene but the director’s attempt to really scare you went overboard. I won’t lie though… I flinched a few times. hehe
But this is what I really want to talk about…
Diminished chords are not only great in horror scenes. You’ll find them all throughout contemporary gospel music, jazz, blues, and other styles.
In gospel and Christian music, they were actually banned several centuries ago because of their “devilish,” diminished sound. Nowadays, they are commonplace as the right amount of dissonance in the right places has been widely accepted and almost associated with being an “outside-the-box” player.
So I just thought I’d include something for everyone in this post.
For my beginners, I’ll show you how to form diminished chords. And for my more experienced players, I’ll show you another way to use diminished chords.
For starters, this is how you form a diminished chord using numbers.
I’ll use the C major scale.
C D E F G A B C
C = 1
D = 2
E = 3
F = 4
G = 5
A = 6
B = 7
You can look at this many ways.
You can just take tones 1, 3, and 5 and flat the 3 and 5.
So that would be C, E, and G but you’d flat the E, making it Eb and the G, making it Gb.
C diminished = C Eb Gb
You can also start with a minor chord and just flat the 5th tone.
C minor = C Eb G
Flat the fifth tone to Gb
C diminished = C Eb Gb
You can also think in terms of intervals.
Basic triad chords are made up of third intervals.
There are two basic ones.
Major third
and…
Minor third
Major thirds = 4 half steps
Minor thirds = 3 half steps
(half steps are from key to key, with absolutely NO keys in between).
So C to E is a major third because it has 4 half steps (C to C#, C# to D, D to D#, D# to E).
C to Eb, though, is a minor third because it only has 3 half steps.
So if you compare diminished chords to major and minor chords, you’d notice this:
Major chords are basically a major third + minor third.
Minor chords are basically a minor third + major third.
Diminished chords are a minor third + minor third (thus the SUPER scary sound).
So there’s a crash course for my beginners.
Now, if you want to make a diminished seventh chord, it gets a little more trickier.
You take the 1, 3, 5, and 7 of any major scale and you flat the 3 and 5 like normal (just like we did above for our basic diminished triad). But for the 7, you have to DOUBLE FLAT it.
So if the C major scale is:
C = 1
D = 2
E = 3
F = 4
G = 5
A = 6
B = 7
You’d take C, E (flat it to Eb), and G (flat it to Gb). There’s your basic triad.
Then you take the B and flat it to Bb, and then flat it again to Bbb.
Note: Saying Bbb (pronounced “B double flat”) is the same as playing “A.” They are enharmonic (another topic in and of itself).
Most people informally would spell out the C diminished chord as C Eb Gb A. This would be wrong on a music theory test but will slide anywhere else.
To be correct, you say:
C Eb Gb Bbb
So basically when you talk about any major, minor, dominant, or diminished seventh chord in the key of C, you will always see C E G and B. No way around it.
C major 7 = C E G B
C minor 7 = C Eb G Bb
C dominant 7 = C E G Bb
C diminished 7 = C Eb Gb A (WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)!
C diminished 7 = C Eb Gb Bbb (the right way)!
Phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Now that I got that outta the way, here’s how to use the diminished chord (outside of just using it by itself).
6-2-5-1 chord progression
You can use a diminished seventh chord when you’re on the 6th tone of a scale and want to go to the 2nd tone of the scale.
A normal 6-2-5-1 chord progression in the key of C major might look like this.
A + C + E + G / A bass
D + F + A + C / D bass
D + F+ A + C / G bass
C + E + G + B / C bass
What if you took the A minor chord and kept your bass the same but used some type of diminished chord on your right hand?
Try this:
A# + C# + E + G / A bass
And that will lead you perfectly to your D minor chord.
A# + C# + E + G / A bass
D + F + A + C / D bass
D + F+ A + C / G bass
C + E + G + B / C bass
If you want a better D minor chord and want to keep that “G” on top, try playing:
F + A + C + E + G / D bass
(which is a “D minor 11″)
So as you can see, diminished chords aren’t always scary. If you play them with their root bass, perhaps… but if you change their bass notes around and start experimenting with them, you can find a host of things to do!
Until next time!
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diminished chords have never been scary to me. i think they are beautiful when applied the right way. jermaine touched on this too with that progression up there. there are others too and i hope you can delve back into this topic soon j.
Samuel
thanks jermaine. I’m not new but this was a good refresher.
This is a great post. I’m really glad you’re doing this blog again. It will really allow a lot of subscribers to re-connect with you PERSONALLY. I love the way you teach man. I’ll be here EVERYDAY.
Peter
Wow, i i’ve never seen Bbb before. Are you making this stuff up? J/P
No, it’s true. Cb, E#, Bbb, Ebb are all real notes. Just lower a note twice in the case of Bbb.
Bbb makes the same sound as A.
i didn’t like strangers either.
I seldomly use diminished chords, but this is a good one to try.
No, Jermaine did not make up the Bbb name.
This is another enharmonic name or A, depending on how you write down your music.
On paper it looks different, but it sounds the same.
There are many notes with double & even triple flats & sharps, from a technical perspective.
enharmonic names refer to this: for instance, let’s look at the major scale of E: We could also call it the Fb major scale.
The Emaj scale looks thus:
E-F#-G#-A-B-C#-D#-E [note how each letter from A to G appears once. We find that there are 4 sharps in the key of Emaj.]
in Fb:
Fb-Gb-Ab-Bbb-Cb-Db-Eb [notice each letter was used once because a major scale is diatonic. this has 8 flats].
I hope this clarifies matters.
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Love this tips they help alot in my everyday music escapades.
I didnt know the diminshed 7th chord till now. I will play it now as double flat instead of a 7th. Thanks a lot Jermaine.
l lack the right words of appreciation. may Almighy God bless you big.
He who refreshes onother himself is refreshed.may you take your playing next level,and may you have unceasing flow of newness in music, jermaine.
jeremiah 33;3
Great post, Jermaine… I learned lots today, from this! The explanation on the different ways to look at a chord, ( based on notes, based on intervals) was so interesting.. Your article “teaches”, and teaches really good!
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And each note in a dim 7 th chord is the LEADING tone to a new key! ! ! Truly amazing and very useful.
i realy appreciate these lessons, they are wonderful but i am having problems in understanding why A#dim was used on d key of C. I will be most grateful if u make me understand more. Thanks
Try spelling it enharmonically. Switch A# to Bb, and you get C#-E-G-Bb. In other words, seven diminished in D minor.
On a related topic, those four notes actually make four different diminished chords all at the same time:
C#°7
E°7
G°7
Bb°7
Neat, huh?
You teach so well! Thank you!
Jermaine,
I think there is one small correction.. the 3rd chord you specify in your 6-2-5-1 chord progression is actually a 2!
Shouldn’t it be G-B-D-F/G bass (assuming you want a Vdom7?).
Other than that, good stuff here.
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Gerry (lol)
I’m more of a starter guitar player, but I’m getting into the theory now. However, I don’t quite understand this?!?
What exactly did we do in that last part? As far as I understood we had this:
Am7/A -> Dm7/D -> Dm7/G -> C7/C
Can somebody explain to me why the 5 in the 6-2-5-1 progression isn’t a G-type chord? And what chord is that even supposed to be?
Also, unless I misunderstood something about flattening, I am pretty sure we didn’t diminish the Am7 chord. But what did we do? Did we replace it completely? Or does it have something to do with B (since its the 7th tone in the C Major Scale and that’s the one that’s supposed to be diminished, as far as I understood)?
Also, do excuse if my terminology isn’t completely correct. As I said, I’m still a starter!
G-D-F-A-C gives you a G11 chord. (scale degrees 1-5-b7-9(2)-11(4) in G Major.) It’s just a dominant chord expanded beyond the seventh.
For the vi chord, we’re actually looking for the chord that leads into D minor, the next chord in the progression. The bass stays on A while the right hand plays a C#°7 chord, the naturally occuring vii° chord in D harmonic minor.
° is the symbol for diminished, btw. Probably should clear that up. ;)
That was a great explanation – so clear. Diminished Chords were scary to me – yes, before, but now they’re a “darling” to me. Thanks for the lesson. Kudos to you
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